Hardcore and max bases

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Bloodknight » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:26 pm

i'm confused it sounds like everyone wants to make HC just like SC but keep the bonuses

I still maintain its not HC if theres no competition.

People only want HC bonuses so they can beat SCs at higher level spawns

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Mastertrader » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:50 pm

we can remove sc and just allow hc im fine with that :)

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Bloodknight » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:28 am

if there was a real combat system i'd be all for it.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Timber » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:11 am

Bloodknight wrote:i'm confused it sounds like everyone wants to make HC just like SC but keep the bonuses

I still maintain its not HC if theres no competition.

People only want HC bonuses so they can beat SCs at higher level spawns
I think you have misunderstood what "everyone" means :p

I'd rather HC be completely removed than nothing at all.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Fred » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:02 am

Bloodknight wrote:i'm confused it sounds like everyone wants to make HC just like SC but keep the bonuses

I still maintain its not HC if theres no competition.

People only want HC bonuses so they can beat SCs at higher level spawns
So let's make it clear:
Curently:
Softcore = 10 saves, death = 39 negs + lose all eq
Hardcore = no saves, death = 249 negs + lose all eq, +7 Base & +10% exp gained

What some people want:
Softcore = 10 saves, death = 39 negs + lose 2 items
Hardcore = no saves, death = 249 negs + lose 2 items, +25% exp gained, +10% mining, +15 mil exp gained

What' I find unfair:
Hardcore suddenly becomes crap, I don't care about the bonus exp nor the bonus mil exp, all it means is that i'll be high warlord at lvl 60 instead of 70. As for the leveling, well what would people prefer? +25% bonus exp or never having to worry about losing your items & getting a bunch of negs...
I know not fixing this will make it hard / impossible to make endgame content, but you can't tell people after several months of playing that they might aswell start over because suddenly the other option, which they had to choose at lvl 1, was better...
I've also said this before: I don't mind turning in some of the bonus we have, but there still needs to be a bonus to playing hardcore and gaining more exp is NOT a bonus!

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Timber » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:43 am

Gaining more exp is a bonus, just not one you like.

I'm sure we can let you become SC if you feel that playing as HC is not worth it anymore.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Emmy » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:01 pm

So let me make sure I understand you correctly Fred. You would prefer to keep your +7 stats so you can be bad ass over SC chars in TP and the game to be at a dead end.
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

" I know not fixing this will make it hard / impossible to make endgame content, but you can't tell people after several months of playing that they might aswell start over because suddenly the other option, which they had to choose at lvl 1, was better..."

Actually, NOW is the time to fix it...
As I said in a previous post, I am sure a shrine can be put in Aston that would allow you to become SC again if the change is so bad to you...So, you REALLY lose NOTHING...after all you arent level 100 so you dont have extra bases to lose.

Your entire post says this ...I DONT CARE IF THE GAME DIES IN 6 MONTHS. I DONT CARE THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE HIGHER CONTENT. I DONT CARE IF THE GAME IS BALANCED. NONE OF THAT MATTERS TO ME ME ME...JUST GIVE ME ME ME WHAT I WANT OR IT ISNT FAIR.
Frankly, the most childish attitude ever.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Mastertrader » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:28 pm

Emmy wrote:Your entire post says this ...I DONT CARE IF THE GAME DIES IN 6 MONTHS. I DONT CARE THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE HIGHER CONTENT. I DONT CARE IF THE GAME IS BALANCED. NONE OF THAT MATTERS TO ME ME ME...JUST GIVE ME ME ME WHAT I WANT OR IT ISNT FAIR.
Frankly, the most childish attitude ever.
Theres no need to this ...., it just makes the othere side angry.
People be nice this just a suggestion box.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Emmy » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:05 pm

ROFL. So, there is no need for truth...Gotcha. Feel free to delete the post.

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Re: Hardcore and max bases

Post by Tyce » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:22 pm

Give hc bonus area as well

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